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Vampy from the Juke Joint

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What specifig guide

All of them

Or to rephrase, what have you been doing to make a tulpa?

10:26 PM

Have you ever believed you could make one? Have you ever felt you where doing progress?

Affirming, sublminals , meditating for the wonderland and talking to my tulpa, talking to myself and responding in my mind the way my tulpa would, watching movies that my tulpa is in since it’s based off a character and talking with them in my mind while I did so

10:26 PM

And yes I know tulpamancy is real

Have you ever gotten anything? like, a emotional response or something?

No

any kind of interaction

10:28 PM

Well, your problem might be that you have a veeery high bar for your first tulpa interaction.

I mean I am patient I expected it will come in time but it’s been 3 years

10:29 PM

I’m pretty sure my brain just can’t make one

Your first tulpa interaction will be just you talking to "yourself". if you think "well, thats me, im not getting a response", thats the wrong mindset. If you think "Thats actually my tulpas response" that would be the good one.

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Your first tulpa interaction will be just you talking to "yourself". if you think "well, thats me, im not getting a response", thats the wrong mindset. If you think "Thats actually my tulpas response" that would be the good one.

have you ever considered this?

Vampy from the Juke Joint

I’m pretty sure my brain just can’t make one

There is already one personality in your body and i dont see anything crazy wrong with you, it would be really weird that you couldnt. Thinking that is also the wrong mindset.

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

have you ever considered this?

That’s what I do is how I affirm

10:31 PM

Affirmations and law of attraction and such

My point is that if you actually did consider what i said, you would not say that there was no interaction at any point as you would have labeled those interactions as your tulpa. (edited)

So you’re saying there is no way that it’s not possible for one individual to not be able to create a tulpa?

I believe it is highly unlikely and against all I have seen that there is a functioning individual incapable of actually making a tulpa assuming they actually have the correct mindset. (edited)

10:40 PM

And since you seem like a functioning individual to me i believe you could make a tulpa. I just believe you are missunderstanding something.

Luminesce: Generally, it's expectations of what the experience should start out like, that keeps "tulpa interaction" from ever catching on and becoming more immersive from there. (edited)

10:44 PM

That said, I don't really know how to help people who've gotten stuck with wrong expectations for multiple years, it seems really unlikely to get unstuck at that point, after cementing how you think about it for so long.

10:45 PM

So, possible? Without a doubt. Can we make it happen for you? I don't know.. I would usually recommend stopping for a while and then coming back with a fresh view/expectations.

I guess you have seen previous cases like this @Reisen

Luminesce: All I can say is how it works (edited)

11:03 PM

I've seen a good number of people report "no success" after years of trying, and I know that no matter how much we've tried to help them they usually don't have some miraculous change of perception.. Except very rarely when they leave the practice for a while and come back later with a "fresh start".

11:05 PM

I don't think that's necessary - a tulpa could optimally be created and fully developed + the brain learns tulpamancy, in as little as a couple weeks or so. Though most people are not going to be primed with all the knowledge and expectations necessary to make that happen.

11:06 PM

And for people who've been unsuccessful for 2+ years, essentially they've just been thinking wrong for so long it's extremely unlikely they'll be able to just suddenly think right. Not because it's impossible or something, just because they've already demonstrated they're unlikely at all to.

11:08 PM

So yeah, all I can say is how it works. You think of your tulpa as an independent entity in your mind that will eventually be capable of thinking and acting on their own, and you interact with them believing that process is occurring. These expectations and intent shape your brain into eventually actually having the tulpa experience most of us describe, which entails completely convincing and independent-feeling thoughts and actions from your tulpa, their own separate-feeling/sounding voice and thoughts, and so on, to the point that it's impossible to mistake them for yourself.

11:08 PM

It more often than not does not start out like that though, and people who get stuck rejecting any possible progress of their brain starting to learn how to get there end up never making progress.

11:10 PM

Luminesce: In my experience, saying all this a hundred times over in different ways won't change anything over just explaining it once. The changes to belief/expectation/intent just have to be done in the person trying to learn tulpamancy. (edited)

Yeah, i just wanted to know how the cases you knew went, thank you.

I understand thank you then I’ll stop doubting that who I’m talking to is me then and train my brain

Vampy from the Juke Joint

I understand thank you then I’ll stop doubting that who I’m talking to is me then and train my brain

I have a video that may help you! https://youtu.be/a8FfM96fiiY

Jade & Aury

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Vampy from the Juke Joint

I understand thank you then I’ll stop doubting that who I’m talking to is me then and train my brain

I would do as Lumi said and stop for some time before coming back

hello everyone. i just started creating my tulpa a couple of days ago. I wanted to ask if communication between us is normal xd. We talk in this way: i am talking aloud and i hear my tulpa's answers as my thoughts, now they are pretty short like yes, no, i agree. Will my tulpa become vocal in some time? Will they talk more and create more complex answers and questions? How did you feel while speaking with your tulpa at the start?

Arent they vocal if they can respond? /gen

sppeeedd

hello everyone. i just started creating my tulpa a couple of days ago. I wanted to ask if communication between us is normal xd. We talk in this way: i am talking aloud and i hear my tulpa's answers as my thoughts, now they are pretty short like yes, no, i agree. Will my tulpa become vocal in some time? Will they talk more and create more complex answers and questions? How did you feel while speaking with your tulpa at the start?

Seems pretty normal to me, and a really good progress. (You shouldnt actually care much if your method is normal or not though.)

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berockly (TTG)

Arent they vocal if they can respond? /gen

i mean, i know these are my thoughts, but i am convincing myself that it is them xd

Your tulpa is already vocal and i would say that they could get fully vocal in a day if you just let them give longer answers.

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sppeeedd

i mean, i know these are my thoughts, but i am convincing myself that it is them xd

Imo its them if you believe it is

sppeeedd

i mean, i know these are my thoughts, but i am convincing myself that it is them xd

Thats completely wrong... You know those are their thoughts and you are right in thinking so.

Its that simple

berockly (TTG)

Imo its them if you believe it is

ig thats what it is, you start to think that it is them and in some time it becomes reality isnt it? (edited)

If they were your thoughts why would they be so short... They are just learning, let them...

Yeah, and your wording makes it seem like you arent convinced

berockly (TTG)

Yeah, and your wording makes it seem like you arent convinced

XD kind of

sppeeedd

ig thats what it is, you start to think that it is them and in some time it becomes reality isnt it? (edited)

Its them from the start, they just might have low levels of separation.

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I have trouble wording things well

7:53 PM

But its basically them if you believe it is

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makes sense

7:54 PM

how did you guys hear your tulpas at the start tho?

7:54 PM

was it the same? hard to tell if its just thoughts or not

You will always hear your tulpa as a mindvoice

7:55 PM

Define exactly what you are asking

yep, just a sec

7:56 PM

how is hearing your tulpa different now and at the beginning?

7:56 PM

how was it changing

At the beginning is less differentiable from your own mindvoice

7:57 PM

Thats it

7:57 PM

But its just a labeling game, youll learn to put labels really fast, and thats what makes them separate.

8:00 PM

Makes sense?¿

yes yes

8:01 PM

would you be able to describe how you differentiate your thoughts and the tulpas voice?

8:01 PM

or how you feel when its tulpa and when its you

You dont "differentiate" them, you just "decide" who is who.

8:02 PM

And when you train yourself to do that decission, it will start happening automatically.

8:02 PM

And when it happens automatically you will just KNOW if its you or them.

8:02 PM

It will just be given. Its like when you feel happy or sad, you just know.

Yeah, we have moments where we are having a conversation, and dunno wHo said what

8:04 PM

And we just go through whatever unknowns we have and assign the thoughts to whoever it makes the most sense

8:05 PM

Or, one of them will wake up to talk to me, and we have to decide who, because we arent sure

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8:05 PM

Its really a matter of decision

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8:05 PM

Ive had my tulpas for over a year

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

You dont "differentiate" them, you just "decide" who is who.

that actually makes sense, you literally create other person from part of your own thoughts, i just didnt think of it in this way earlier

Well, one of them atleast

thanks for your answers xd, that settled down a couple of things for us

Kissa

I have a video that may help you! https://youtu.be/a8FfM96fiiY

Watch this too@sppeeedd

I dont like that video. It proves that someone exists, thats the body. It doesnt prove that any specific headmate exists or is separate, thats just personal experience. Also, the whole video is wordplay... (edited)

8:10 PM

Basically a fallacy to make you feel better.

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

I dont like that video. It proves that someone exists, thats the body. It doesnt prove that any specific headmate exists or is separate, thats just personal experience. Also, the whole video is wordplay... (edited)

Oh i noticed that while watching it too

8:23 PM

I mostly ignored it though

8:24 PM

Like you said, the wording dosnt actually prove separation

8:24 PM

Or that one is not doing the thinking themselves

8:26 PM

Having difficulty putting what im trying to say into words

8:26 PM

Essentially what you said, though

i know this is a question that has already been answered many times and it would be kinda annoying to do so again, but i would still to get an answer for it. how do i differentiate parroting with actual responses and intrusive thoughts?

Luminesce: Intrusive thoughts? (edited)

1:38 AM

They're intrusive when designated as unwanted and not reasonably meant by you or your tulpa. I hope you're not assuming responses from your tulpa could somehow be "intrusive thoughts", though.

i sometimes when i think something for myself my brain uses to repeat something related, like when i ask myself something about football and i hear in my head something i heard someone say about it

Luminesce: Parroting is a purposely, consciously done vocality-practicing technique of purposely imagining your tulpa talking in clear, full sentences, so that your brain can get an idea of what that would be like. (edited)

1:40 AM

Parroting is not "thinking something was your tulpa when it actually wasn't"

1:40 AM

Generally speaking, that's never worth considering to be the case. If it sounds like something your tulpa might've reasonably said, you should assume it was. Doubting too much stifles their development - and specifically, stifles your brain learning to separate their thoughts and feelings from yours.

1:41 AM

A developing tulpa often starts out "sounding/feeling" like your own thoughts. In a lot of cases, they might as well be, too. But what's important is to treat them like they're there and trying to talk. It's okay for them to sound/feel like your own thoughts at first while they're developing & your brain is learning tulpamancy.

1:42 AM

Eventually they start to gain their own voice and feeling, and you won't even have to doubt anymore because it'll be obvious it's them.

the thing is that this isn't the "first time making a tulpa"

1:43 AM

i just left behind practicing more and more and then i suppose my head made him "mute"

1:43 AM

and i'm already getting some responses the first day trying to get back to communication

Luminesce: Past experience doesn't change what you should do, really. For example, a developed tulpa who isn't active for months may lose some vocal clarity (loudness & ability to speak in long, clear sentences) temporarily, and simply doing what you did to make them vocal in the first place (ie talking to them and expecting them to respond) gains back that vocal clarity pretty quick. (edited)